MNSearchermikinhomcewinter Don't these limitations reside with other tuners as well? I think I'm needlessly confused. Edit: So recorded TV can't be shared by other W7 stations with the SD? Yes. It is not a limitation of SDCC (I like this acronym, SD has too many meanings) it is for all protected content recorded via CableCard. Correct, protected recorded content can not be shared by other W7 stations Not correct. He specific said with SD. Protected recorded content could not be shared with other w7 stations with either solution!
mikinhomcewinter Don't these limitations reside with other tuners as well? I think I'm needlessly confused. Edit: So recorded TV can't be shared by other W7 stations with the SD? Yes. It is not a limitation of SDCC (I like this acronym, SD has too many meanings) it is for all protected content recorded via CableCard. Correct, protected recorded content can not be shared by other W7 stations
mcewinter Don't these limitations reside with other tuners as well? I think I'm needlessly confused. Edit: So recorded TV can't be shared by other W7 stations with the SD?
Don't these limitations reside with other tuners as well? I think I'm needlessly confused.
Edit: So recorded TV can't be shared by other W7 stations with the SD?
Yes. It is not a limitation of SDCC (I like this acronym, SD has too many meanings) it is for all protected content recorded via CableCard.
Correct, protected recorded content can not be shared by other W7 stations
Not correct. He specific said with SD. Protected recorded content could not be shared with other w7 stations with either solution!
?? I think you are confused. He stated "Not correct" yet you said the same thing I did.
To be more clear I said have said: "It is not a limitation of limited to SDCC it is for all protected content recorded via CableCard. i.e. All CableCard devices have this limitation, not just SDCC. But with SDCC you can watch Live TV from other W7 machines, something other CableCard implementations doesn't let you do.
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You're getting defensive and giving short answers - that's the reason for the questions - it's hard to tell what you're saying.
You do have a valid point, once again, can you point to where you read that?
I think the confusion arises, because the differentiation between sharing the tuners and sharing the content is not being made. They are not the same thing.
Sharing Tuners: Not possible with other CC tuners, because they are direct-attached to the MCE PC. The HDHRCC is attached to your Ethernet and as such can be access and used by any MCE PC on the network.
Sharing Content: Nothing changes here with the HDHRCC. Same limitations apply. If the content is protected you can only watch it on the PC that recorded it or an extender attached to said PC. If the content is unprotected, then you are free to watch it on any PC.
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mcewinter You're getting defensive and giving short answers - that's the reason for the questions - it's hard to tell what you're saying. You do have a valid point, once again, can you point to where you read that?
Was this intended towards me? If so, I apologize, I didn't think I was being short.
superswissSharing Content: Nothing changes here with the HDHRCC. Same limitations apply. If the content is protected you can only watch it on the PC that recorded it or an extender attached to said PC. If the content is unprotected, then you are free to watch it on any PC.
That's what I thought - thank you.
In other words - nothing is different regarding the SDCC except that's networked.
mikinho - no, I edited my post. Sorry for the confusion.
mcewinterIn other words - nothing is different regarding the SDCC except that's networked.
Well, and the fact that you can watch LIVE tv on any Media Center PC on the network. That is a significant difference, IMO. One PC could record everything and support the extenders, other PCs could watch non-protected, recorded content and watch live TV.
I have and love my current HDHomeruns, I think those who are unfamiliar are pretty confused about the product, confusing me in turn.
kingwrWell, and the fact that you can watch LIVE tv on any Media Center PC on the network. That is a significant difference, IMO. One PC could record everything and support the extenders, other PCs could watch non-protected, recorded content and watch live TV
This is the big difference for me as well and why I'd ideally like a quad Ceton for the primary HTPC + extenders and SDCC for the other PCs. The best of both worlds.
Cabal Johnh0000Unfortunately no... certain times of protected content will be locked to the first PC that views it, and you need Extenders to view it in other rooms... I don't think people realize that HDHRCC will not enjoy the freedom that made HDHR so popular. No need for the scare tactics. That only applies to two categories: 1.) Premium channels (HBO, etc) 2.) Time Warner users The second can probably be fixed *eventually* with more CableCARD publicity/awareness and enough recognized pundits bitching.
Johnh0000Unfortunately no... certain times of protected content will be locked to the first PC that views it, and you need Extenders to view it in other rooms... I don't think people realize that HDHRCC will not enjoy the freedom that made HDHR so popular.
No need for the scare tactics. That only applies to two categories:
1.) Premium channels (HBO, etc)
2.) Time Warner users
The second can probably be fixed *eventually* with more CableCARD publicity/awareness and enough recognized pundits bitching.
Interestingly enough, even Time Warner doesn't seem to have a uniform policy on their Protected Content flag. I have TWC here in OC and sometimes get premium content, even the same program, both protected and unprotected, at different times!
The irony is, that the reason for the protection is to protect the content. But if some carriers protect it and others do not, or protect it some weeks and not other weeks, it will still end up on BitTorrent. It makes no sense whatsoever.
Sure, if you are the founder of Mikinhosoft and made of money!
kingwr mcewinterIn other words - nothing is different regarding the SDCC except that's networked. Well, and the fact that you can watch LIVE tv on any Media Center PC on the network. That is a significant difference, IMO. One PC could record everything and support the extenders, other PCs could watch non-protected, recorded content and watch live TV.
Correct, but that's the result of it being networked. Because it is attached to the network, each tuner can be used by any PC on the network for Live TV or recording content. This is the tuner sharing part I referred to above.
plastic101 Interestingly enough, even Time Warner doesn't seem to have a uniform policy on their Protected Content flag. I have TWC here in OC and sometimes get premium content, even the same program, both protected and unprotected, at different times! The irony is, that the reason for the protection is to protect the content. But if some carriers protect it and others do not, or protect it some weeks and not other weeks, it will still end up on BitTorrent. It makes no sense whatsoever.
You hit the nail on the head, but they don't get that. The current model makes no sense. For the protection to make any sense it needs to be done at the source, the content itself, not at the distribution of the content as it is done today. The current model just annoys and does nothing to protect the content, evidenced by the fact that the content is readily available on BitTorrent. Whoever gets it unprotected will make it available to everybody else.
radamsif you have fios, you don't need to worry about any of this. they don't protect any cablecard content.
if you have fios, you don't need to worry about any of this. they don't protect any cablecard content.
Nor Comcast, nor Charter (with the exception of the aforementioned HBO, etc).
Now that I'm reviewing things...with the Ceton, and an extender or win7PC, can I watch live TV? Or is that exclusively a function of the SDCC?