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** FAQ - BBC HD / ITV HD in Vista Media Center via DVB-S / Freesat **

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    I second that - it took me a while to realise which DLL file needed to be changed first. You should also make it clear that you first need to unregister the existing DLL, make the changes and remember to register the new DLL. For some users who also have DVBViewer on their machines, you need to make sure that you uncheck the box in DVBViewer settings (Extended options) which says "Disable LNB on Completion" or else the tuner will only scan to the last transponder you were viewing - i.e. you will not be able select channels on other transponders (e.g. you can't go from BBC to $ky News).
    Gigabyte 780G Mobo - AMD BE-2400 - 2GHz RAM - ATI Cat. 8.10 - CoreAVC - Vista Ult. - DVBViewer. FloppyDTV S2.
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    I've updated the answer to that question to make it clearer.
    Windows 7 (x64) Media Center: Core i5 650, 4GB DDR3, 2x Pinnacle 7010ix (2x DVB-S, 2x DVB-T), 2x 2.5" WD 250GB RAID-1, 3x 2TB Samsung 3.5", 2x 1.5TB Samsung 3.5" (all hidden in rack cabinet in garage)* Extender 1: X-box 360 Slim 4GB, 46" Sharp 1080p LCD TV, Logitech Z-5500 Speakers Extender 2: Linksys DMA-2100, cheap 26" LCD! * Replacing old WHS since Microsoft removed Drive Extender and did not include Media Center. SyncToy used to duplicate certain folders and planning to use Acronis True Image for PC backups.
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    What about Channel 4HD?  Can that be added?  I can't see it in the programme list....
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    Tony_Park:

    Can anyone using a Floppy/Fire DTV get this working?

    Tony

    Tony, I can confirm Floppy DTV wokring with TV Pack. I have FDTV S2 working but you need to get the latest firmware and the Beta integrated driver setup (v. 5.2.N). See this link --> http://www.digital-everywhere.com/en/alcms/index.php?sid=1220202904 I can confirm BBCHD, Luxe TV HD & ITV HD working.
    Gigabyte 780G Mobo - AMD BE-2400 - 2GHz RAM - ATI Cat. 8.10 - CoreAVC - Vista Ult. - DVBViewer. FloppyDTV S2.
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    qubito:
    Tony_Park:

    Can anyone using a Floppy/Fire DTV get this working?

    Tony

    Tony, I can confirm Floppy DTV wokring with TV Pack. I have FDTV S2 working but you need to get the latest firmware and the Beta integrated driver setup (v. 5.2.N). See this link --> http://www.digital-everywhere.com/en/alcms/index.php?sid=1220202904 I can confirm BBCHD, Luxe TV HD & ITV HD working.

     

    Yes, my setup is 2x FloppyDTV-S2 and it works happily for me, for BBC HD, ITV HD, Luxe HD, and HD channels off Hotbird & Astra 19.2.  

    But not Channel 4 HD - I'd love to know how to get that working....

    Jim

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    Suyre i read somewhere that sky have thr rights to the encryption of channel 4 hd so its is not possible to get it at the moment but i think this is changing soon

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    I wondered if that was the case, but the fact that it doesn't appear in my Channel list (and scanning the transponder finds no new channels) means we can't find out!

     

    Jim

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    I was suffering BBC HD blacking out until I discovered I waded through another thread on here and found out that this can be fixed by *not* doing the registry hack to get ITV HD. Of course, the down side of this is that I can't get ITV HD, but as there hardly seems to be anything on it I can live with that.

    BBC HD isn't perfect though - it's still not very smooth and the Dolby Digital sound is either way out of sync, or just not there at all. I'm guessing the poor picture could be down to my graphics card, so I'm considering upgrading this, but does anyone know if the inability of my existing card to process h.264 fast enough is likely to be also causing the sound to be dropped? Don't really want to spend money on a card and still not be able to watch BBC HD.
    Intel Core 2 6400 ¦ MSI P965 Platinum ¦ 2GB RAM ¦ 250 GB Samsung SpinPoint P120 SATA HD ¦ Gainward Nvidia 9500 GT 512MB ¦ Pinnacle PCTV 4000i dual DVB-S ¦ Thermaltake Bach Case + VFD ¦ Windows 7 Home Premium
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    Nightfox,

    I susspect its not your graphics card that is the problem, but your processor. I am pretty sure that Vista does not use hardware acceleration for H.264 decoding. It relies on the processor. Your P4 3.2 GHz is not quite up to it. Have you tried looking at CPU usage during HD playback? Is it maxed out?

    My experience is that you need at least a dual core CPU. I have a quad core Q6600 and it runs at between 30% and 50% during BBC HD playback (under Windows 7 ) with all four cores sharing the load.

    You might also want to increase the amount of RAM. 1GB might be a bit low.

    Ben

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    Thanks for the reply Ben. I can't check the CPU load during HD playback as for some reason with TV pack installed I can't run VMC in a window, or switch to another task. I suspect you may be right though, as I've tried playing back recorded material from BBC HD on my "main" PC which is a dual core, and it works fine, even with the same graphics card.

    It was my understanding that newer graphics cards could handle HD decoding, so before I go down the expensive CPU/MB/RAM upgrade route I've ordered a ATi 3450 to see if that helps. It won't be money wasted as it can go in my upgraded system if I do need to upgrade.
    Intel Core 2 6400 ¦ MSI P965 Platinum ¦ 2GB RAM ¦ 250 GB Samsung SpinPoint P120 SATA HD ¦ Gainward Nvidia 9500 GT 512MB ¦ Pinnacle PCTV 4000i dual DVB-S ¦ Thermaltake Bach Case + VFD ¦ Windows 7 Home Premium
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    Something I've just noticed - I can no longer watch live TV on my extender (Xbox 360) - Recorded TV works fine though. I knew I wasn't going to be able to watch live or recorded HD, but is this right that I can't even watch live SD?
    Intel Core 2 6400 ¦ MSI P965 Platinum ¦ 2GB RAM ¦ 250 GB Samsung SpinPoint P120 SATA HD ¦ Gainward Nvidia 9500 GT 512MB ¦ Pinnacle PCTV 4000i dual DVB-S ¦ Thermaltake Bach Case + VFD ¦ Windows 7 Home Premium
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    NightFox:
    Thanks for the reply Ben. I can't check the CPU load during HD playback as for some reason with TV pack installed I can't run VMC in a window, or switch to another task. I suspect you may be right though, as I've tried playing back recorded material from BBC HD on my "main" PC which is a dual core, and it works fine, even with the same graphics card. It was my understanding that newer graphics cards could handle HD decoding, so before I go down the expensive CPU/MB/RAM upgrade route I've ordered a ATi 3450 to see if that helps. It won't be money wasted as it can go in my upgraded system if I do need to upgrade.

    Well, tried the ATi 3450 (£35) and it does take the HD load off the CPU as I hoped - I've got perfect BBC HD now, even with a fairly old spec system.  If I use the reg hack to allow ITV HD my BBC HD goes black after about a second, even if I've not watched ITV HD, and restarting the PC or juust VMC makes no difference.  No worries, I can live without ITV HD right now.

    Intel Core 2 6400 ¦ MSI P965 Platinum ¦ 2GB RAM ¦ 250 GB Samsung SpinPoint P120 SATA HD ¦ Gainward Nvidia 9500 GT 512MB ¦ Pinnacle PCTV 4000i dual DVB-S ¦ Thermaltake Bach Case + VFD ¦ Windows 7 Home Premium
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    ASM495, perhaps you would like to add this info to the first post, it solves some problems with TV Pack. See the post linked to below.

    http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/permalink/318570/314300/ShowThread.aspx#314300

     

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    I'll get that added!
    Windows 7 (x64) Media Center: Core i5 650, 4GB DDR3, 2x Pinnacle 7010ix (2x DVB-S, 2x DVB-T), 2x 2.5" WD 250GB RAID-1, 3x 2TB Samsung 3.5", 2x 1.5TB Samsung 3.5" (all hidden in rack cabinet in garage)* Extender 1: X-box 360 Slim 4GB, 46" Sharp 1080p LCD TV, Logitech Z-5500 Speakers Extender 2: Linksys DMA-2100, cheap 26" LCD! * Replacing old WHS since Microsoft removed Drive Extender and did not include Media Center. SyncToy used to duplicate certain folders and planning to use Acronis True Image for PC backups.
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    I have got Vista SP1 and TV Pack 2008 on a Vaio with NVidia 8500GT graphics and Hauppauge WinTV HD-S2.

    I tried to install the hacked MSDTVVDEC.DLL file and had problems with messages such as "dllunregisterserver error code 0x80070005. So I did the whole thing in Safe mode and it seemed to work.

    However, I noticed that my original version of the DLL file was about 750Kb, whilst the hacked one is 1.5 Mb.  Is that correct?

    Anyway, after installing it, none of my TV channels could be accessed any more, SD or HD.  It said the Video codec was missing or something...

    So I moved the old DLL file back, did a system restore, and I'm back to viewing SD channels again.

    So what did I do wrong?

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